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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/157299955" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mikeyhew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#157299955">(Jan 31 2019 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is there a way to skip to the bottom of my feed on the "all messages" tab? I only pop into Zulip once in a while, and there's always a ton of new messages. The only way to see the latest ones is to scroll to the bottom, which is very slow because you have to scroll through every message, and wait for each block of messages to load before you scroll through them.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/157300487" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#157300487">(Jan 31 2019 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah its a problem</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/157300517" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#157300517">(Jan 31 2019 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>its even worse on mobile devices. Its probably my biggest complaint with Zulip (and I'm a fan)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/157300593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mikeyhew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#157300593">(Jan 31 2019 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I figured out I can mark all messages as read, and then it reloads and <em>does</em> skip to the bottom</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/157300602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> QuietMisdreavus <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#157300602">(Jan 31 2019 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>on desktop, the chevron by the "all messages" link on the left has a "mark all messages as read" button - i think that also forces you to the bottom?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/157300610" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> QuietMisdreavus <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#157300610">(Jan 31 2019 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>lol you posted it as i was typing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/157301241" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mikeyhew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#157301241">(Jan 31 2019 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/157301327" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mikeyhew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#157301327">(Jan 31 2019 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does that exist on mobile? The android app at least seems pretty limited. I couldn't even figure out how to open a new topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/157364158" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> blitzerr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#157364158">(Feb 01 2019 at 16:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="125273">@mikeyhew</span> <br>
If the feed on a topic is too long, I do get a faded bottom pointing arrow in the bottom right corner of the Android app. That scrolls all the way to the end of the feed.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/157364207" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> blitzerr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#157364207">(Feb 01 2019 at 16:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am also in zulip beta, not sure if that's the reason I get it ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/158058003" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#158058003">(Feb 11 2019 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I get the arrow on iOS, but it only scrolls to the bottom of the messages that are currently loaded (I have to hit it many times to go through weeks of messages)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/158688861" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#158688861">(Feb 16 2019 at 10:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>is any part of zulip opensource by any chance?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/158688864" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#158688864">(Feb 16 2019 at 10:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am tempted to just make a different client that is actually usable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/158688874" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#158688874">(Feb 16 2019 at 10:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span>  <a href="https://github.com/zulip" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/zulip">https://github.com/zulip</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/158688875" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#158688875">(Feb 16 2019 at 10:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>the data model is probably fine, it's the UI and UX that make it worse than many other things for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/158688926" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#158688926">(Feb 16 2019 at 10:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>so this is it? <a href="https://github.com/zulip/zulip-mobile" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/zulip/zulip-mobile">https://github.com/zulip/zulip-mobile</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/158688928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#158688928">(Feb 16 2019 at 10:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if these issues are caused by React Native or by the Zulip Mobile app code</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/163085286" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#163085286">(Apr 11 2019 at 09:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>So I had thought the <code>End</code> key was supposed to do this, based on the Help message that comes up when I hit <code>?</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/163085373" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#163085373">(Apr 11 2019 at 09:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>but <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span>  has pointed out that in a search query with a large number of unread messages (or that have not been otherwise locally cached), the <code>End</code> key seems to first: </p>
<p>1. take you to the end of whatever is currently cached, and then <br>
  2. load a <em>few</em> more messages (maybe a dozen? Not sure)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/163085430" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#163085430">(Apr 11 2019 at 09:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>and so you have to hit <code>End</code> repeatedly to actually get to the end (or manually scroll)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/163085538" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#163085538">(Apr 11 2019 at 09:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>This seems like a bug to us. Is there any reason for this behavior? Perhaps the search is performed locally on the client, so its not feasible to jump to the true end since an arbitrary amount of content must be loaded first?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip%20to%20bottom%3F/near/163087672" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/skip.20to.20bottom.3F.html#163087672">(Apr 11 2019 at 10:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>If you file a issue w/ Zulip, mention that it is from Rust, they have a label for tracking our requests.</p>



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